Jordan’s Famous Friends

Larry Moyer

In this episode of Jordan's Famous Friends, I have the pleasure of interviewing Larry Moyer, an evangelist whose journey from a dairy farm to global ministry is nothing short of inspiring. Growing up surrounded by nature, Larry felt a profound connection to the Almighty Creator, leading him to a transformative faith experience as a teenager. With degrees from Cairn University, Dallas Theological Seminary, and Gordon-Conwell Seminary, Larry has dedicated his life to sharing the clear and simple message of the gospel. As the founder of EvanTell, he travels the world, equipping individuals to reach people for Christ in their own contexts. Join us for a captivating discussion about faith, evangelism, and the importance of connecting with others on their level. Don’t miss Larry’s insights on how to effectively communicate the gospel in today’s world!
All Larry’s Books can be found here and here.
A Mentor’s Wisdom.
Broken in the Right Place by Alan E. Nelson.
Biblical Preaching by Haddon W. Robinson.
To find out more about Larry and EvanTell click here.

Craig Clapper

In this episode I interview Craig Clapper, who served as the pastor of Trinity Church for over 26 years and fulfilled a lifelong dream of completing a thru-hike on the Appalachian Trail. Craig shares his experiences of long-term pastoral leadership, the challenges and rewards of shepherding a congregation for decades, and how his journey on the Appalachian Trail matured his faith. Tune in for an inspiring conversation about perseverance, the beauty of nature, and how Craig's adventure transformed both his personal life and his ministry.
Links
Books
Legging It by Craig Clapper.
Knowing God by J. I. Packer.
The Cross of Christ  by John Stott.
A Long Obedience in the Same Direction by Eugene H. Peterson.
Meditations from the Breakdown Lane by James E Shapiro.
God Walk by Mark Buchanan.
Three Mile an Hour God by Kosuke Koyama.
Pilgrim at Tinker Creek by Annie Dillard.
Resources
Topical Memory System (TMS)
Quotes
“‘(Emily) "Does anyone ever realize life while they live it...every, every minute?’ (Stage Manager) ‘No. Saints and poets maybe...they do some.’” Thornton Wilder (Our Town)
“If you think of this world as a place intended simply for our happiness, you find it quite intolerable: think of it as a place of training and correction and it’s not so bad. Imagine a set of people all living in the same building. Half of them think it is a hotel, the other half think it is a prison. Those who think it a hotel might regard it as quite intolerable and those who thought it was a prison might decide that it was really surprisingly comfortable. So that what seems the ugly doctrine is one that comforts and strengthens you in the end. The people who try to hold an optimistic view of this world would become pessimists: the people who hold a pretty stern view of it become optimistic.” S. Lewis (God in the Dock)

Charles Stone

In this episode, I sit down with Charles Stone, a seasoned pastor with over 40 years of experience in ministry, having served in roles such as lead pastor, associate pastor, and church planter. Charles has written seven books and contributed over 300 articles to prominent Christian leadership platforms. He holds four advanced degrees, including a Ph.D., and has extensively studied the intersection of neuroscience and leadership, focusing on managing stress in ministry. Charles has coached and trained over 3,000 leaders across seven countries. In our conversation, we explore how he integrates biblical principles with brain-based strategies to equip pastors for leadership. He also shares insights into his personal life, ministry experiences, and leadership development.
Links
Books
Deep Work: Rules for Focused Success in a Distracted by Cal Newport.
Spiritual Leadership: Principles of Excellence for Every Believer by  Oswald Sanders.
Your Brain at Work: Strategies for Overcoming Distraction, Regaining Focus, and Working Smarter All Day Long by David Rock.
Why We Sleep: Unlocking the Power of Sleep and Dreams by Matthew Walker.
Podcast
Andrew Huberman
Quotes
“But he who is noble plans noble things, and on noble things he stands.” Isaiah 32:8
To find out more about Charles here (charlesstone.com).

Jason Smith

In this episode, I’m joined by Jason Smith, affectionately known as “Smitty,” a dynamic leader whose journey spans military service, corporate success, and impactful ministry work. With nearly 30 years of experience, Jason has built a career defined by purpose, influence, and a passion for helping others navigate the challenges of leadership.
Jason’s ability to connect with people through humor, storytelling, and genuine vulnerability makes him a relatable and insightful guest. As a United States Air Force veteran and a licensed pastor, he brings a unique perspective shaped by diverse experiences in law enforcement, construction sales, and entrepreneurship. Jason has also played a significant role in assessing and training hundreds of church leaders across the U.S. and Canada.
In our conversation, we dive into Jason’s personal and professional journey, exploring how his background in biblical studies, theology, and psychology has equipped him to care for and consult with leaders in various cultural contexts. Whether you’re leading in the military, corporate world, or ministry, Jason’s insights will inspire and equip you to lead with purpose and authenticity.
Links:
Books
The Normal Christian Life by Watchman Nee.
Topical Memory System (TMS)
Escaping Enemy Mode: How Our Brains Unite or Divide Us by Jim Wilder.
The Other Half of Church: Christian Community, Brain Science, and Overcoming Spiritual Stagnation by Jim Wilder.
The Needs of the Heart by Chip Dogg
Quotes
Leaders are readers.
“Ministry is what you leave behind as you follow Jesus.” Chip Henderson
“Your reputation is merely an illusion if it’s not a mere image of your character.” Unknown
Other
Kirkland Signature 3-piece Golf Wedge Set
Collars and Co.
EMDR Therapy
Brainspotting
To find out more about Jason check out C Care Consultants.

Mac Lake (Kinda)

In this episode, I had the incredible opportunity to interview Mac Lake, a leader I’ve admired for a long time. Unfortunately, due to a technical issue, we lost most of our conversation, and only about 10 minutes of the interview were saved. This was a hard pill to swallow, especially after months of planning and anticipation.
Despite this setback, I’m sharing the portion we were able to recover, where Mac shares briefly on leadership and personal growth. Though short, this segment captures a small portion of Mac’s wisdom and experience.
As a token of appreciation, Mac has offered our listeners a 10% discount on his books and resources at The Multiply Group using the code FAMOUSFRIENDS. You can also download his free ebook, “Rethinking Leadership Development,” at multiplygroup.org/ebook.
I’m deeply sorry that we couldn’t bring you the full interview, but I’m trusting that God has a purpose in this. I hope you find encouragement and value in what we do have to share.
Thank you for your understanding and continued support.
Links
Podcast
Shawn Stevenson.
Don Miller.
Books
Ordering Your Private World by Gordon MacDonald.
One Minute Manager by Ken Blanchard.
Leadership and the One Minute Manager by Ken Blanchard.
Sleep Smarter – Shawn Stevenson.
How to Grow Your Small Business by Don Miller.
Emotional Intelligence by Travis Bradberry, Jean Greaves, and Patrick Lencioni.
Quotes
“When you get to the end of your life…” George Sweeting
“Do less and do it better.”
Other
Eat sardines and sauerkraut (with oregano and olives). Double dog dare you (Mac's secret weapon).
Pops TV.
To find out more about Mac check out The Multiply Group (use FAMOUSFRIENDS they get a 10% discount). Download a free ebook, “Rethinking Leadership Development” at multiplygroup.org/ebook.

Drew Flamm

Dr. Drew Flamm is the seventh president of Grace College & Seminary. With a distinguished career in higher education and advancement, Dr. Flamm brings a wealth of experience and a fresh vision to his role as president.
In this episode Dr. Flamm shares about his educational journey, reflects on his past experiences, speaks of his leadership philosophy, and his commitment to fostering a dynamic and impactful educational environment. Beyond his professional accomplishments, Dr. Flamm also offers us a glimpse into his personal life, sharing about his wife, their three sons, and his hobbies.
Join us for a great conversation that explores the intersection of education, leadership, and personal growth. Dr. Flamm's story and wisdom is both inspiring and informative, making this episode a must-listen for anyone interested in effective leadership.
Links
Podcast
Carey Nieuwhof
Craig Groeschel
Andrew Huberman
Peter Attia
Books
ESV Bible
Patrick M. Lencioni
John C. Maxwell
Leadership and Self-Deception: Getting Out of the Box by The Arbinger Institute
Purchases
Ooler
Quotes
“A wise lad makes a glad dad.” (a modern take on Proverbs 15:20).
God made you special and He loves you very much and I love you too.
“God is my refuge and strength.” Psalm 46
Other
Find out more about Dr. Flamm and Grace College here.

Freddy Cardoza

Freddy Cardoza is the Dean of the School of Ministry Studies at Grace College and Vice President of Grace Theological Seminary. Freddy's dedication to advancing the Kingdom of God shines through his work in expanding the size, reach, and impact of the school, its faculty, and the dynamic programs they offer. As a Professor of Christian Ministry and Leadership, Freddy equips Christian leaders for impactful ministry, training disciples to wield the Word of God and the power of God for His glory.
Join us as we explore Freddy’s vision for the future of ministry education, his strategies for effective leadership, and his steadfast commitment to advancing the Kingdom of God. This episode is packed with so much wisdom and inspiration for anyone involved in ministry or leadership. Don't miss this engaging and transparent conversation with Freddy Cardoza.
Links
Books
The Divine Conspiracy: Rediscovering Our Hidden Life In God by Dallas Willard.
Celebration of Discipline: The Path to Spiritual Growth by Richard J. Foster.
Evidence That Demands a Verdict: Life-Changing Truth for a Skeptical World by Josh McDowell.
Under the Influence: How Christianity Transformed Civilization by Alvin Schmidt.
How Christianity Changed the World by Alvin Schmidt.
The Hour That Changes the World: A Practical Plan for Personal Prayer by Dick Eastman.
The Spirit of the Disciplines: Understanding How God Changes Lives by Dallas Willard.
Don't Waste Your Life by John Piper.
Purchases
Audible.
Penzu.
Quotes
Satan and the world have already given you the best they got.
“It isn’t the mountain ahead that wears you out; it is the grain of sand in Your shoe” Ali
"The world is run by tired men." Winston Churchill
Other
Three questions: What do I truly love the most in this world? What do I truly hate the most in this world? What do I fear the most in this world?
Academii.
 

Rick Thompson

In this episode we sit down with Rick Thompson. Rick's journey spans from Wheaton Graduate School to Moscow, Russia, and beyond. Rick and his wife Jan began their ministry journey together, serving at Hope Evangelical Free Church in Dubuque, Iowa, before being called to Moscow, where Rick was the EFCM Eurasia Director and senior pastor of Moscow Bible Church. Upon returning to the U.S., Rick served as district superintendent in Texas and now continues his ministry with the Great Lakes District. Jan, meanwhile, has excelled in developing volunteer teams and leading spiritual life retreats in large churches. Together, they reside in Chicagoland, cherishing time with their three children and four grandchildren. Join us for a heartfelt conversation about faith, leadership, and the profound impact of answering God's call.
Links
Books
Hebrew ideals in Genesis: Study of Old Testament Faith and Life by James Strahan.
Charles R. Swindoll
Be Series by Warren Wiersbe
Next Step Resources (Books by Rick are available here)
Purchases
Wheat Kodiak
Trulicity
Quotes
“It’s a great tragedy when a man succeeds too soon.” F.B. Meyer
Other
Great Lakes District Conference

Steven McCausland

In this captivating episode, we're joined by Steven McCausland, the Regional Superintendent for Chicagoland in the Great Lakes District Evangelical Free Church and a towering figure in the pen industry. Steven’s unique blend of leadership offer a fascinating perspective that you won’t want to miss!
Links
Books
Commentary on the New Testament Use of the Old Testament: A Comprehensive Bible Commentary on Old Testament Quotations, Allusions & Echoes That Appear from Matthew through Revelation by D. A. Carson and G. K. Beale.
Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief by Jordan B. Peterson.
Me, Myself, and Us: The Science of Personality and the Art of Well-Beingby Brian R Little. Check out Brian’s TED talks here and here.
Purchases
Brooks Running Shoes.

Mark Artrip

In this episode we sit down with Mark Artrip, a devoted follower of Jesus, loving husband to Kristin, and proud father to Malachi, Canaan, Mercy, and Zion. Mark shares his journey, a few insights to family life, and a great deal about leadership as he leads a Movement in Ohio. If you're seeking insight or simply a conversation that will make you think, this episode is a great one!
Books
Experiencing God by Henry Blackaby.
21 Irrefutable Laws of Leadership by John Maxwell.
Celebration of Discipline by Richard Foster.
Crazy Love by Francis Chan.
The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry by John Mark Comer.
The Book of Basketball by Bill Simmons.
Shoe Dog by Phil Knight.
Purchase
Plaud.
Quotes
Peace is only found in one place: the person of Jesus.
Everything we have is a gift from God.
When you’re looking for a wife someday make sure she loves Jesus.
Some of the nicest people make the worst parents.
Your job isn’t to be a friend to your kids but to be their parent.
If something matters to God, it should matter to us.
Other Links
5 Gum peppermint cobalt.
Solarcaine.
Find out more about Mark at Movement Churches or Movement Church.